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11:56:05 <anarchystar> i saw the statement, my condolences.. i am still interested to talk
12:28:17 <MagicalTux> [19:56:04] <anarchystar> i saw the statement, my condolences.. i am still interested to talk <- I guess so, if I didn't care I would have just closed everything as chapter 7 bankruptcy
17:09:20 <anarchystar> http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1z6qws/open_letter_to_mark_karpeles_and_the_bitcoin/
Sunday, March 2nd, 2014
11:58:38 <anarchystar> let me know when you can talk about that open letter where debtholders become shareholders
11:58:50 <anarchystar> i represent over 1000 plaintiffs meanwhile
11:59:22 <anarchystar> we are interested in getting ownership of the exchange, but we dont want you to be the CEO.. just help with the transition
14:19:06 <MagicalTux> [19:59:22] <anarchystar> we are interested in getting ownership of the exchange, but we dont want you to be the CEO.. just help with the transition <- already got quite a few candidates lined up by the potential new owners
14:20:35 <anarchystar> what do you mean with potential new owners?
14:26:50 <MagicalTux> [22:20:34] <anarchystar> what do you mean with potential new owners? <- we've been in discussion for more than a week with different investors willing to buy mtgox and cover the missing funds
14:43:33 <anarchystar> yes ive heard that, but how concrete is this?
14:45:03 <anarchystar> also, why dont you offer me the chance to invest?
14:46:33 <anarchystar> i think its time you start talking
14:48:55 <MagicalTux> well, maybe the fact that you had guys following me and my staff outside our office could be part of the reason why we didn't include you in the recovery process ?
14:49:44 <anarchystar> we talked about that before, my lawyer took the initiative to try to contact you
14:49:56 <anarchystar> i think youre exagerating how far they went in that attempt
14:50:38 <anarchystar> also, the fact you lied to me about AML and 5 million, which made me loose even more by forcing me to buy back in, could also be debated
14:50:50 <anarchystar> we can go on talking about what happened or we can find solutions
14:51:15 <MagicalTux> well
14:51:33 <MagicalTux> either way right now anyone who wishes to take over is subject to the approval of the trustee in charge 
14:51:42 <MagicalTux> I can give you their contact so you can have your japanese counsil converse with them
14:51:50 <anarchystar> yes please do so
14:52:06 <MagicalTux> if the trustee gives its approval for a plan you put together then it should be fine
14:52:39 <MagicalTux> note that the process we are in right now also allows us to start a process where everyone's debt is converted to share holding of the company, however this requires approval of at least half of the customers (around 500k people)
14:53:48 <MagicalTux> do you have any email I could send the list to ?
14:53:57 <anarchystar> olivier@destiny.com
14:54:56 <MagicalTux> sent
15:03:53 <anarchystar> got it
15:08:12 <anarchystar> i would also like to know why you didnt include the bitcoin in the debt the company has
15:08:48 <MagicalTux> [23:08:12] <anarchystar> i would also like to know why you didnt include the bitcoin in the debt the company has <- we want to try to get the court to accept bitcoin to be refunded as bitcoin, instead of converting it all to yen
15:09:00 <MagicalTux> because it would be more fair to the customers
15:14:13 <anarchystar> i will get back on this
15:14:27 <anarchystar> the first thing we will request through the court is a detailed explanation of how the 800k btc got lost
15:14:41 <anarchystar> you can save a lot of time by giving it now
15:22:17 <anarchystar> you have to realise its game over for you, you are done and burned (actually you are charcoaled) - so the best thing you can do at this point is assist in being completely transparant and help us make the best of this - number 1 being explaining to everyone how these coins got lost so the community can decide the best course of action
15:23:14 <anarchystar> we can be very fair to you depending how you handle this
23:20:59 <MagicalTux> actually
23:21:48 <MagicalTux> I'm providing details to the law enforcement, saying anything publicly could cause problems with the investigation
23:24:03 <anarchystar> i highly doubt that if they were stolen through a bug
23:24:21 <anarchystar> the community has much more tech knowledge to trace whoever did this
23:24:38 <anarchystar> than law enf will have in 100 years
23:26:05 <anarchystar> i think youre using it as an excuse not to say anything
23:33:39 <anarchystar> you made 10000's of people loose over 500 million usd, if you think this is the end of it you are mistaken, we will get to the bottom of this - you can come clean, help out and save face - or we will find out anyway - i would just stop hiding the truth if i were you, makes everything much easier
23:35:36 <MagicalTux> we are not at liberty to discuss details with anyone else than law enforcement 
23:36:06 <MagicalTux> unless you want to see the investigation fail, of course
23:36:30 <anarchystar> ok, if thats the way you want to play if (same thing as the past 3 years), so be it
23:36:42 <anarchystar> im not falling anymore for that method
23:37:38 <anarchystar> trying to blame on others and making people docile by your last sentence
23:37:48 <anarchystar> pretty obvious now
23:38:40 <anarchystar> we will be filing today
23:38:58 <anarchystar> no other way if you continue like this
23:43:54 <MagicalTux> do you even understand what a police investigation is?
23:44:08 <MagicalTux> only the police can disclose elements they deem safe to be disclosed
23:44:22 <anarchystar> funny
23:44:32 <anarchystar> do you understand what fraud is?
23:45:23 <MagicalTux> I do, yes
23:45:53 <MagicalTux> I do not not see however what this has to do with me giving or not giving you confidential details on the investigation in progress
23:46:21 <anarchystar> try explaining to the judge how you failed to report 500 million in bitcoins