# Pastebin iU6juxXr 11:50 AM <%red3> Cool. So let's get into things. What did we think of this article? 11:51 AM Idk how to feel about this really in all honesty 11:51 AM <+cybersqyd> I've been deeply conflicted on this since it came out. 11:51 AM Its alright, feels very much like a responce to the on going police issues. 11:51 AM (As it was posted in june) 11:51 AM <%red3> I feel somewhat to same. On one hand, I appreciate that there's something coming out which talks about this, but on the other, dado was a very bad choice for this kind of thing. 11:52 AM <+cybersqyd> I don't disagree with the message of the article per se; so much as the humorous tone of it feels...insensitive. 11:52 AM Yeah 11:52 AM Thats more my issue with it. 11:52 AM Not so much on the politics, more the way the author took it. 11:52 AM <+cybersqyd> yeah 11:53 AM I honestly can't tell you how I feel about this. Like, dado is a poor choice about getting the message across but at the same time there is the message 11:53 AM <%red3> djkaktus has a problem with their political articles where it feels like a character is designated as the spokesperson for their opinions. Bright felt like that character in 5004, and dado feels like that character here. There's something off about him supporting such a message, since he shouldn't really care about anything other than making money. 11:54 AM <+cybersqyd> yeah, it feels odd for dado to care here 11:54 AM Yeah 11:54 AM <+cybersqyd> but also the way dado cares feels...odd? he's against police brutality but he's relatively cool with the national guard?? 11:55 AM <%red3> I feel like if this was just a random person deciding to do this, the core message of the article wouldn't change. dado feels so much like an afterthought in this article, like the only reason they're being included is so they can tell one joke and then get to the core message. 11:55 AM Cybersqyd out here taking words out of my mouth lol. 11:55 AM <+cybersqyd> yeah 11:56 AM — +cybersqyd considers 11:56 AM <+cybersqyd> do you think the humorous tone would work better if it was a gaw piece? 11:56 AM Eh, maybe? I haven't read too much of GAW 11:57 AM probably not? It does sound like GAW would do this but it would have to be less... body horror 11:57 AM <%red3> Yeah, I think this fits better as a GAW piece. There's a bunch of other GAW articles which deal with political issues, so it just makes me wonder why dado was chosen at all. 11:57 AM <+cybersqyd> like i'm trying to decide whether the humorous tone is just not landing because dado is taking a weird political stance; or because approaching this from a humorous perspective is just, bad. 11:57 AM Isn't dado one of kaktus's characters? 11:57 AM <%red3> Yeah, kaktus posted the first article. 11:57 AM <+cybersqyd> And like, GAW circumvent this a lot because they're a group of radical leftists 11:57 AM Yeah 11:58 AM I dunno, dado isn't entirely a good fit for being serious anyway. 11:58 AM <@Calibri_Bold> I feel like this also doesn't actually address the issue meaningfully. 11:58 AM <+cybersqyd> in what way? 11:58 AM <@Calibri_Bold> Well, for starters, there's the poorly done humorous tone. 11:59 AM <%red3> cybersqyd: Yeah. This article struggles to put some kind of joke in there to make sure that it fits with dado's theme, but each one of them struggles to do anything. Hell, one of the biggest jokes in here is just a sarcastic rant about what dado thinks about police brutality. 11:59 AM <@Calibri_Bold> Additionally, it doesn't actually discuss the why or how of the issue, it just acknowledges that it exists. 12:00 PM And kinda shoves body horror in there without much of a reason beyond "lmao, this is an issue, guess there are pigs." Beyond adressing the issue. 12:01 PM <+cybersqyd> honestly, cops shitting pigs is the highlight of the article for me 12:01 PM Yeah 12:01 PM <%red3> Yeah, I've thought about this problem for a good minute. I'm not sure whether this is trying to be satire or not. On one hand, it seems like it's trying to make a message, but it doesn't actually go into any of the reasons why or any possible solutions for this problem. It feels like it's just stating something for the sake of stating something, rather than making any sort of argument. 12:01 PM <@Calibri_Bold> red3: Exactly. 12:01 PM <+cybersqyd> mmm yeah I can see that 12:02 PM <+cybersqyd> on the other hand, I'm not necessarily sure a SCP article is the best place for a nuanced discussion on police brutality and how to solve it? 12:02 PM I think there may just be some disconect between Kaktus, what is trying to be adressed, and humor with dado. 12:02 PM <%red3> "Here's what I believe. I won't give you the reasoning behind what I believe, but this is it. Support my views or don't." Like... okay? What am I supposed to do with that? 12:02 PM Yeah. 12:03 PM <@Calibri_Bold> red3: That's exactly what it is. 12:03 PM <+cybersqyd> it somewhat reminds me of SCP-4670; but I think it lands better just because it's...more focussed, I think? 12:04 PM <+cybersqyd> …'it lands better' as in '4670' 12:04 PM <@Calibri_Bold> cybersqyd: Except all the politically charged authors on the site insist that the SCP wiki is the best place for nuanced discussion. 12:04 PM <@Calibri_Bold> Well, not the best. 12:04 PM <@Calibri_Bold> But a good place. 12:04 PM <%red3> cybersqyd: Sure it is. Especially in the realm of satire, you can easily poke fun at the whole process and how fucked up it is. And even with dado, you can put humor into it by showing how ridiculous it is. 12:05 PM → Mew-ltiverse joined (uid372380@queenofthemew.ltiverse) 12:07 PM <%red3> Does anyone else want to say their thoughts on this article or should we move onto our final opinions? 12:07 PM ⇐ Popsioak quit (uid397494@frozen.garden) Quit: i need an scp break 12:12 PM <%red3> Overall, I feel like this is a poor representation of the issue. It doesn't address any of the core issues beyond the superficial "Hey, I don't like it when people are getting hurt", it doesn't provide anything new to the discussion, it uses the wrong type of character for this discussion, and just doesn't accomplish what it sets out to do. This is a heavy downvote from me. 12:13 PM <@Calibri_Bold> That pretty much sums up my thoughts. 12:14 PM SAme here, I'm gonna have this as a novote but nearing downvote territory 12:14 PM Sums it my thoughts as well.