# Pastebin M5HaBEV1 From: Guido van Rossum Subject: [Python-Dev] Re: PEP 674: Disallow using macros as l-value To: Victor Stinner Hi Victor, I wonder if there's a role for HPy in this context? What if instead of evolving the stable ABI and the limited API, instead we were to focus on first-class support for HPy? Surely 5 release cycles would be enough to completely remove the stable ABI and perhaps even the limited API in favor of HPy? Or am I misunderstanding the place of HPy in the ecosystem?