# Pastebin DJMgmIQf
12:19 PM <+cybersqyd> so first impressions?
12:19 PM <~barredowl> yeah
12:19 PM <BlueJones> Tbh idk about this. Its certainly interesting but idk if im missing anything that explains why this is a thing
12:19 PM <~barredowl> sorry, lagged out
12:20 PM <~barredowl> i thought this article did a very good job with justifying its petite length
12:20 PM <~barredowl> so
12:20 PM <+cybersqyd> yeah, it really does a good job of setting up a really big mystery vibe
12:20 PM <+cybersqyd> but does less of a good job of offering closure?
12:20 PM <~barredowl> i don't think there really was much bloat here.
12:20 PM <~barredowl> seemed like a very straightforward article.
12:20 PM <~barredowl> short and to the point.
12:21 PM <+cybersqyd> yeah
12:21 PM <+cybersqyd> it kinda...feels weird when you think about it?
12:21 PM <~barredowl> and i think for these kinds of things it's usually based on the concept
12:21 PM <+cybersqyd> like...idk how nobody noticed it sooner?
12:21 PM <~barredowl> and the rest of the article is predicated on that
12:22 PM <~barredowl> i think it's a very delightfully specific area of horror to focus on, how many orifices your body has
12:22 PM <BlueJones> So could someone give me the rundown on this as i seem to be missing out on something big here
12:22 PM <~barredowl> oops cut out
12:22 PM <+cybersqyd> BlueJones, what do you think you're missing?
12:22 PM <~barredowl> i think what this is implying is that there's some force that doesn't want anybody to find it
12:23 PM <~barredowl> like something in the human body
12:23 PM <+cybersqyd> yeah
12:23 PM <~barredowl> and searching for orifices is how that thing is found
12:23 PM <+cybersqyd> ventricle and cerebral cortex implies it may be...piloting humans?
12:23 PM <~barredowl> > It was as if these individuals possessed two small, foreign objects within their bodies and, sometime before, during, or after their deaths; they had been forcefully removed.
12:23 PM <BlueJones> Idk i just dont get it, like its just a scientific disagreement to me but from what im getting from you guys is that there is a whole thing im missing here
12:24 PM <+cybersqyd> Well, the implication is that the disagreement exists cos one side is hiding it's existence
12:24 PM <+cybersqyd> like, there's two extra bits of the human body that are being removed
12:25 PM <~barredowl> hmm
12:25 PM <~barredowl> i don't really have many bones to pick with this one
12:26 PM <BlueJones> I see. I guess I'm just not seeing the intrigue with this
12:26 PM <+cybersqyd> i think they're being removed here rather than like, removing themselves
12:26 PM <~barredowl> i think there's a lot of substance here honestly
12:26 PM <+cybersqyd> BlueJones, yeah, the intrigue is almost entirely predicated on you wondering why this is the case
12:26 PM <+cybersqyd> and...I think my issue here is it doesn't quite hint at why it's the case in a satisfying way?
12:27 PM <~barredowl> i can see that
12:28 PM <~barredowl> i do get some interest over the kinda briefly mentioned "substantial disagreement" here
12:28 PM <~barredowl> there's a lot of small tidbits which really draw me to this piece.
12:28 PM <BlueJones> cybersqyd: hmmm, yeah. Honestly I'm surprised that you guys are getting a way more thought provoking sense from this than I am. So uh... I guess I'll novote simply cause I'm not seeing the big picture beyond scientific disagreement
12:29 PM <+cybersqyd> I mean the big picture is that it implies everyone has these extra holes
12:29 PM <+cybersqyd> and in turn, that something inside them is being removed from every dead person
12:29 PM <+cybersqyd> and in turn, that there's an organisation who can do that without anyone knowing
12:29 PM <~barredowl> or that there's just some entity which does that
12:29 PM <~barredowl> yeah
12:30 PM <+cybersqyd> it's possible they're self-removing but the reference to surgical scars implies something more precise
12:30 PM <~barredowl> this is kinda a short article so i don't know what much else to talk about
12:30 PM <~barredowl> other than i think this is a strangely substantial piece considering its length
12:30 PM <~barredowl> and that it does a lot with a little
12:31 PM <+cybersqyd> yeah; I think it just needs a touch more to explain why this happens
12:31 PM <+cybersqyd> not like, in a conclusive way but just, enough that we can really begin to speculate on it?
12:31 PM <~barredowl> i think it's pretty alright with what it does
12:32 PM <~barredowl> this definitely has a lot of speculation potential
12:32 PM <+cybersqyd> yeah but i think it squanders it a little in places by not giving direction?
12:33 PM <+cybersqyd> it feels like it's setting up a chain of fridge logic but that there's not quite enough to reach the chilling truth
12:33 PM <+cybersqyd> but *shrugs* that's just my personal feeling here.
12:33 PM <~barredowl> yeah the fridge logic quite isn't there
12:33 PM <~barredowl> it could be stronger but in this regard i'd say it's strong enough
12:33 PM <+cybersqyd> i'm...tentative.
12:33 PM <BlueJones> Its certainly a bit hard for someone like me to see and draw up my own conclusions based on what is written so mayhaps it could have done with a bit more detail
12:33 PM <+cybersqyd> yeah
12:35 PM <~barredowl> hrmm
12:35 PM <+cybersqyd> hm. the right ventricle instead of the left ventricle is odd here; it implies that it's interfering in the pulmonary system and the brain; so...controlling the flow of oxygen maybe?
12:36 PM <~barredowl> yeah this is certainly an interesting one
12:36 PM <+cybersqyd> yeah
12:36 PM <+cybersqyd> Does anyone else have opinions?
12:37 PM <+cybersqyd> (red3: do you want to talk about this one a little?)
12:37 PM <~barredowl> i think for now it's gonna be a pretty confident upvote from me. it's a lot more substantial than 4862 and a little bit more interesting.
12:37 PM <BlueJones> Nope, I've got none from me. As I said, I'm novoting cause I simply didn't get the point of it during the first read
12:38 PM <~barredowl> yeah i'm kinda drawing a blank for now
12:38 PM <red3> Uh... I don't have much to say about this. There's not much else to it besides the creepy factor.
12:39 PM <+cybersqyd> fair
12:39 PM <red3> Besides the vagina debacle which was pretty interesting, but it wasn't that big.
12:39 PM <+cybersqyd> out of curiosity: do you have an explanation for what's happening?
12:40 PM <+cybersqyd> i'm not asking you to give it or anything, just curious if it does exist
12:41 PM <~barredowl> iirc the birth canal isn't like, a through hole but moreso a blind hole but i am unknowledgeable
12:41 PM <red3> Yes, there is a definite explanation. I am going to say that it's a lot more obvious than 4862, but it's mainly connected to how the things removed... relate(?) to the body parts. Like...
12:41 PM <red3> > and allow direct access to the right ventricle and cerebral cortex, respectively.
12:42 PM <red3> These objects are present in the heart and a sector of the brain responsible for a lot of human-related activity: speech, memory, interpretation of facts, etc.
12:42 PM <red3> > and, sometime before, during, or after their deaths; they had been forcefully removed.
12:42 PM <red3> Also note the use of "foreign bodies" instead of just "bodies".
12:44 PM <~barredowl> yeah
12:46 PM <~barredowl> so overall, i'm not really sure what i specifically would do to improve this article
12:46 PM <~barredowl> i do think it's really good, though
12:49 PM <~barredowl> so i think that wraps things up