{"body":"12:03 PM <%red3> Cool. So what are our first thoughts on this article?\r\n12:03 PM → Popsioak joined (uid397494@frozen.garden)\r\n12:03 PM <+cybersqyd> hm\r\n12:04 PM <+cybersqyd> i'm, somewhat iffy on this\r\n12:04 PM <+cybersqyd> idk why; there's a lot of really dope horror imagery in here\r\n12:04 PM <+cybersqyd> and it's existence lead to a dope tale\r\n12:04 PM <+cybersqyd> but there's something kinda, unsatisfying here?\r\n12:04 PM <%red3> Yeah. On one hand, there's some great buildup in the ConProcs and the Description, and I also enjoyed the idea of an entity breaking apart a family by having each member commit terrible acts to one another, but all of the horror comes from a really boring place.\r\n12:06 PM <+cybersqyd> i wouldn't have said the horror comes from a boring place so much as it feels...lacking in closure?\r\n12:06 PM → Karakatt132 joined (uid439972@synIRC-6116F9BF.highgate.irccloud.com)\r\n12:06 PM At first read, it was quite horrifying and it put me off of reading other skips when I was a fair bit younger. Now its lost its more horror glamour here to me. I enjoy the idea that an entity can cause this much havoc for no clear purpose at religious events such as baptasms but now, to me at least, it didn't hit the same cords it once did for me\r\n12:06 PM <%red3> In every event, people kill themselves, eat something disgusting, and something bad happens to children. That's the status quo of this article. And since it doesn't really change, the only thing that can really freak me out is the level that it goes to to achieve that horror. That feels boring to me, just changing the thing the people eat from the flesh of babies to, like, the flesh of the anomaly.\r\n12:07 PM <+cybersqyd> hm\r\n12:07 PM <%red3> cybersqyd: Do you mean that it feels like the horror doesn't have a purpose or?\r\n12:07 PM <+cybersqyd> yeah i can see that\r\n12:07 PM <+cybersqyd> red3, kinda; it feels like there's a lot setting up what this does and then it just...ends/\r\n12:07 PM <+cybersqyd> it's all escalation and no final payoff for it?\r\n12:08 PM <%red3> Well, I think the payoff is meant to be the Black Event. The article sets everything up as \"Oh, you thought this event was bad? Just wait until we get to the *lightning strike in background* BLACK EVENT\".\r\n12:08 PM <+cybersqyd> yeah\r\n12:09 PM Mhm\r\n12:09 PM <%red3> But then once we get there, it just feels like \"Oh, it's the same thing that we did earlier BUT WITH CHILDREN\".\r\n12:09 PM <+cybersqyd> mmm\r\n12:10 PM <%red3> The only thing I really enjoyed about the horror of this is the idea that, like, one incredibly weird event can cause an entire family to spiral apart. Weddings and baptisms and funerals are meant to be times when the family grows more close, and the anomaly actually helps them do so in a weird way, but then they start to drift apart and do gruesome things to one another.\r\n12:11 PM <+cybersqyd> yeah\r\n12:11 PM <%red3> Parents have miscarriages or their babies are stillborn, the children become antisocial and start killing animals, etc. And that would be a really interesting angle to take using something like interview logs, but this chooses to stick strictly to the \"Gore, gore, gore!\" style of horror that doesn't have any substance to it beyond the initial shock.\r\n12:14 PM tbh there isn't much to say from me, you guys are speaking my thoughts here hehe\r\n12:14 PM <%red3> Should we move onto our final opinions on this?\r\n12:14 PM <+cybersqyd> see i don't mind that so much; cos it really feels like it could all be in purpose of something\r\n12:14 PM <+cybersqyd> except it's not\r\n12:14 PM <%red3> What did you think it was building up to?\r\n12:15 PM <+cybersqyd> no idea\r\n12:15 PM <+cybersqyd> some kind of reveal about the purpose of what cousin johnny is up to or something like that\r\n12:15 PM <+cybersqyd> something to contextualise why\r\n12:15 PM <+cybersqyd> not even like, necessarily explicitly so much as for it to imply in some kind of direction\r\n12:16 PM <%red3> Like, show at least whether the anomaly enjoys what it's doing, feels guilty, something like that?\r\n12:17 PM <+cybersqyd> yeah maybe something like that; not necessarily so much 'how does the anomaly feel about this' as 'why does the anomaly do this'\r\n12:19 PM but then, consider this sqyd, it would lose some of its mystique. Like we are left with not much as to its purpose cause if we gave it a purpose, then its less fearful\r\n12:20 PM <%red3> Mm. At this point, I think we're just getting into what we'd personally like to see from this. This reminds me both of those ultraviolent 70s horror movies where every character does horrible things and those creepypastas that try to supplement good buildup by just saying \"So I saw [INSERT RECOGNIZABLE DISNEY CHARACTER HERE], but it was... different. Blood was pouring out of its eyes, and its smiles was larger than it \r\n12:20 PM <%red3> was usually\".\r\n12:20 PM <%red3> *smile\r\n12:20 PM <+cybersqyd> yeah\r\n12:21 PM <%red3> I do agree with Blue, though. I like the way that the anomaly is just introduced without reason and does horrible shit.\r\n12:22 PM <%red3> Are there any other points we'd like to bring up or should we move onto our final opinions?\r\n12:22 PM Mhm, I say this cause that was what red's problem was with the sloth last week from interviews with the infected. Simply knowing the purpose means its lost some scare factor CAUSE we can understand it a bit\r\n12:23 PM — +cybersqyd shrugs\r\n12:23 PM <+cybersqyd> i mean explaining why wouldn't necessarily be the only way for this to feel rounded out but it might help.\r\n12:23 PM I mean, hey, its an interesting skip. So I'm gonna upvote this one if I hadn't already\r\n12:24 PM <+cybersqyd> im torn here\r\n12:24 PM <+cybersqyd> on the one hand, it does a lot of stuff really effectively\r\n12:24 PM <+cybersqyd> on the other hand, it left me feeling unsatisfied\r\n12:26 PM <%red3> This is going to be a downvote from me. While I do enjoy my fair share of senseless violence, this just seems to be a really shallow attempt to shock the reader instead of crafting something that'll stick in their minds.\r\n","name":"SCP-2852","extension":"txt","url":"https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/79JzBAMt/SCP-2852","modified":1596050888,"id":"79JzBAMt","size":6141,"lines":51,"own_paste":false,"theme":"","date":1596050888}